F1-F12 Keys

wizaerdwizaerd Posts: 39
edited November 2014 in TL General Discussions
I'm a bit confused about somethin g I've read in the manual. I have leveled up enough that all 10 of my action bar slots are now filled up. I was looking to see if there were additional action bars available (which there doesn't appear to be), but it is possible to assign skills, spells, potions to the F1-F12 keys. Supposedly. But in the manual, it says

"Torchlight Tip: You can also key bind function keys (F1 through F12) to important skills on your Skill Tier, but you won’t have to worry about doing that until later when all of your numbered slots are already assigned to items, spells and skills. To bind a skill to a function key, open your Skills menu (left-click the gauntlet cursor on the Skills icon in the sub menu buttons or press the "S" key on your keyboard) and hold the desired function key down and then left-click the gauntlet cursor on the skill that you want to assign to that function key. When you press an assigned function key, that designated skill will automatically appear as the skill available whenever you right-click with your mouse."

The bold yellow segment is what I'm confused about. I want to assign skilss (spells specifically) to some of the function keys, but this bolded section mentions it's available via right mouse click? Huh?

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  • YinofYangYinofYang Posts: 87
    I was a little confused at first, but I got it real quick. :)

    For example, if you map Elemental Overload to F1, when you press F1, you just right-click on your mouse and your spell will be cast. I like to map out my buffs to the F-keys and then quickly cycle through each F-key and right click the mouse to cast the spell.

    Did what I say make any sense? I hope so, sorry if it didn't. I just had to do it to understand it. :D
  • wizaerdwizaerd Posts: 39
    So right now, I have two mouse button skills, left click and right click, and I can press TAB to swap those two around. What the F1-F12 keys do then, is a more enhanced way of swapping what the right mouse button does. Ok, that makes sense... The skill is not automatically fired or used by pressing the Fx key, but by pressing the key and then using the right mouse button. I can work with that. Assuming I remember what I have mapped to the Fx keys... There is no visible action bar, right?
  • YinofYangYinofYang Posts: 87
    wizaerd wrote:
    So right now, I have two mouse button skills, left click and right click, and I can press TAB to swap those two around. What the F1-F12 keys do then, is a more enhanced way of swapping what the right mouse button does. Ok, that makes sense... The skill is not automatically fired or used by pressing the Fx key, but by pressing the key and then using the right mouse button. I can work with that. Assuming I remember what I have mapped to the Fx keys... There is no visible action bar, right?

    That would be correct. :) Yeah, sometimes I have to look to see what I did. I blame that on horrible memory retention.
  • WildmanWildman Posts: 683
    wizaerd wrote:
    So right now, I have two mouse button skills, left click and right click, and I can press TAB to swap those two around. What the F1-F12 keys do then, is a more enhanced way of swapping what the right mouse button does. Ok, that makes sense... The skill is not automatically fired or used by pressing the Fx key, but by pressing the key and then using the right mouse button. I can work with that. Assuming I remember what I have mapped to the Fx keys... There is no visible action bar, right?

    You got it.

    No there's no action bar, but you can do one of my tricks, just write down on a long piece of paper all of your F-keys and right below the key put down what spell or skill you have assigned to it, then keep it below your monitor so it's easy to see.
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  • wizaerdwizaerd Posts: 39
    For some reason, I can only get the F2 key to accept and use a skill... I'm doing exactly as the instructions say... I'm holding the F key I want to assing to, and right clicking the approrpiate skill in my skill screen. It worked for F2, and it even shows F2 on the skill icon in the skill tree, but none of the others are being assigned or working...
  • dreamriderdreamrider Posts: 1,727
    OK. Admittedly one of the least well explained functionalities within the Torchlight control scheme, in my opinion. But once mastered, a terrific help.

    Try it this way:

    - Left click on the Right Button control icon to bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel, just as if you were going to assign a single Skill to the right mouse button.
    - Hover your cursor over the Skill/Spell in the assignment panel that you wish to assign to an F-key.
    - Press the F-key that you wish that Skill to be assigned to; an over-print label of the key name will appear over the Skill icon.

    From then on, when you press that function key, that Skill will be swapped onto your right mouse button. This assignment is the permanent assignment to that mouse button until changed. The skill assigned to the Tab-Swap control icon will not be affected, and will still be available. In fact, you can also bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel by left clicking the Tab-Swap button, then assigning function keys as described above. However, when the function key is subsequently pressed, it is still the right mouse button & icon that will get the Skill change, not the Tab-Swap button.

    You can also do all of the above in the main Skills pop-out page. Unfortunately, in the Skills page the function key labels will only appear overlaid on the Skills icons, not on the Spells icons (???) Function keys assigned to Spells from the Skills pull-out will still work, and if you pop-up the Right Button assignment array you will see that the function key labels DO appear on the Spells in that display, even though assigned from the Skills page.

    There is a similar (undocumented) function key assignment feature for the LEFT mouse button.
    The available array of Skills is smaller, though, apparently because only direct attack Skills may be assigned to the left mouse button. I do this to have Ricochet available as a quick option for the left button. NOTE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME SKILL ASSIGNED to two different function keys, one f-key that swaps it onto the RIGHT button, and a different f-key that swaps it onto the LEFT button. Can be useful.

    There. That should make your Skill & Spell control...er...skills much more flexible and powerful.

    I have never found any way to fully erase all f-key assignments once made. However, since you can swap them around freely, you can erase all but one f-key assignment by assigning the same f-key sequentially to each of the Skills that have assignments. That f-key will lose its original assignment, leaving the original Skill unassigned, and it will overwrite the f-key assignment for new Skill. Do this repeatedly and you will end up with just one f-key assigned. Never have figured out how to get that last one off altogether, though.

    dreamrider
  • hdhock3yhdhock3y Posts: 14
    dreamrider wrote:
    OK. Admittedly one of the least well explained functionalities within the Torchlight control scheme, in my opinion. But once mastered, a terrific help.

    Try it this way:

    - Left click on the Right Button control icon to bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel, just as if you were going to assign a single Skill to the right mouse button.
    - Hover your cursor over the Skill/Spell in the assignment panel that you wish to assign to an F-key.
    - Press the F-key that you wish that Skill to be assigned to; an over-print label of the key name will appear over the Skill icon.

    From then on, when you press that function key, that Skill will be swapped onto your right mouse button. This assignment is the permanent assignment to that mouse button until changed. The skill assigned to the Tab-Swap control icon will not be affected, and will still be available. In fact, you can also bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel by left clicking the Tab-Swap button, then assigning function keys as described above. However, when the function key is subsequently pressed, it is still the right mouse button & icon that will get the Skill change, not the Tab-Swap button.

    You can also do all of the above in the main Skills pop-out page. Unfortunately, in the Skills page the function key labels will only appear overlaid on the Skills icons, not on the Spells icons (???) Function keys assigned to Spells from the Skills pull-out will still work, and if you pop-up the Right Button assignment array you will see that the function key labels DO appear on the Spells in that display, even though assigned from the Skills page.

    There is a similar (undocumented) function key assignment feature for the LEFT mouse button.
    The available array of Skills is smaller, though, apparently because only direct attack Skills may be assigned to the left mouse button. I do this to have Ricochet available as a quick option for the left button. NOTE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME SKILL ASSIGNED to two different function keys, one f-key that swaps it onto the RIGHT button, and a different f-key that swaps it onto the LEFT button. Can be useful.

    There. That should make your Skill & Spell control...er...skills much more flexible and powerful.

    I have never found any way to fully erase all f-key assignments once made. However, since you can swap them around freely, you can erase all but one f-key assignment by assigning the same f-key sequentially to each of the Skills that have assignments. That f-key will lose its original assignment, leaving the original Skill unassigned, and it will overwrite the f-key assignment for new Skill. Do this repeatedly and you will end up with just one f-key assigned. Never have figured out how to get that last one off altogether, though.

    dreamrider

    Thank you very much, this explanation made things very easy to understand!! :)

    I was trying to figure this out myself, now I'm able to do exactly what I was trying to do, haha.
  • wizaerdwizaerd Posts: 39
    Ok, now I get it and it works as expected... I was trying to do it from the actual skills page, instead of the popup skill display when you left click the button as if you were going to normally assing. Doing it your way did indeed work. I gotta admit, besides a few nuances here and there (such as ths one), I'm having a real blast playing this.

    Thanx again!!
  • InokisInokis Posts: 41
    On a side note, I use a key mapper gamepad, Ideazon Fang, and there are only so many buttons to use. I found it cumbersome to have a row of 1-?? keys and a row of f1-?? keys. I went into the settings config and switched all my action keys to f keys. When I hit f3 (in this map) not only will it trigger a skill another skill lines up for my right or left click as I assign it. I found this a much easier way to play the game. A screenshot is provided to clarify the key layout and ordering.

    *note*: when remapping the keys to fkeys, the text labels on the ui display as one digit higher than the key assignment; f1 will display as f2 etc.

    -Settings.txt-
    *Utility Keys*
    KEYMAP_1 :48 {0}
    KEYMAP_2 :57 {9}
    KEYMAP_3 :56 {8}

    *Keypress Triggers*
    KEYMAP_4 :120 {f9}
    KEYMAP_5 :117 {f6}
    KEYMAP_6 :116 {f5}
    KEYMAP_7 :115 {f4}
    KEYMAP_8 :114 {f3}
    KEYMAP_9 :113 {f2}
    KEYMAP_0 :112 {f1}

    *Right/Left Mouse Triggers*
    FKEYMAP_1 :112 {f1}
    FKEYMAP_2 :113 {f2}
    FKEYMAP_3 :114 {f3}
    FKEYMAP_4 :115 {f4}
    FKEYMAP_5 :116 {f5}
    FKEYMAP_6 :117 {f6}
    FKEYMAP_7 :118 {f7}
    FKEYMAP_8 :119 {f8}
    FKEYMAP_9 :120 {f9}
    FKEYMAP_10 :121 {f10}
    FKEYMAP_11 :122 {f11}
    FKEYMAP_12 :123 {f12}

    torch-keymap.png?psid=1
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  • ArtKiArtKi Posts: 1
    Arrrrgh this is driving me crazy. This doesn't work for me!


    1 Bring up the skills menu.

    I PRESS S
    The menu comes up.

    2 Hover your cursor over the Skill/Spell in the assignment panel that you wish to assign to an F-key.
    HOVERING - the big tool tips comes up explaining what that skill does

    3 Press the F-key that you wish that Skill to be assigned to;

    PRESSING F12 KEY (and I tried every other F key)... NOTHING HAPPENS. NOT A THING.

    I'm baffled. I'm using an old keyboard, a Northgate Omnikey 102. But I've never seen any other program complain about these function keys.


    dreamrider wrote:

    - Left click on the Right Button control icon to bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel, just as if you were going to assign a single Skill to the right mouse button.
    - Hover your cursor over the Skill/Spell in the assignment panel that you wish to assign to an F-key.
    - Press the F-key that you wish that Skill to be assigned to; an over-print label of the key name will appear over the Skill icon.

    From then on, when you press that function key, that Skill will be swapped onto your right mouse button. This assignment is the permanent assignment to that mouse button until changed. The skill assigned to the Tab-Swap control icon will not be affected, and will still be available. In fact, you can also bring up the Skill/Spell assignment panel by left clicking the Tab-Swap button, then assigning function keys as described above. However, when the function key is subsequently pressed, it is still the right mouse button & icon that will get the Skill change, not the Tab-Swap button.

    dreamrider


    From the first post
    To bind a skill to a function key, open your Skills menu (left-click the gauntlet cursor on the Skills icon in the sub menu buttons or press the "S" key on your keyboard) and hold the desired function key down and then left-click the gauntlet cursor on the skill that you want to assign to that function key.

    Tried it that way.

    Open the skills menu
    Hold the F12 key down
    Left click the cursor... The skill square slides off so I can move it to one of the 0-10 skill slots. It does NOT bind to a function key.

    Also... gauntlet cursor. Gauntlet? I just have an arrow cursor.
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