TorchLeech - WoWMatrix clone for Torchlight

[ombra]

Vote for "Best Addon ever!" Thank you very much for your efforts, i don't care about the folder thing!

[Hexx]

How can you expect people to care at this point? You fail to comprehend that the simple matter of folder renaming's total effect on any system is exactly 0 %... It's not sometimes it might do something, it will never ever have any kind of effect on anything at all! Period! BUT, if, and I stress IF, two mods where to have a folder of the same name, THEN problems would arise... That's why it a simple renaming has been done, actually it is a service to you so you don't have to do it yourself...

And about the windows files... If you, by now, STILL thinks that the program actually deletes windows files, and that it was not a joke made by the author because you were making totally ridiculous accusations, I suggest you create a new user on the forum... Cause this WILL haunt you forever... I am sorry... The only thing you can do about it at this point is make a sincere apology before you ridicule yourself even more...

OKAY chump what ever you say!

More than one person reports that file path changing has broken a mod. Did you get that part?? SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE REPORTED LOST DATA DUE TO TORCHLEECH BREAKING JUST A SINGLE MOD!

if you are all so stupid that you cannot comprehend that the program is borked than there is nothing anyone can do for you.

Plain and simple. Torchleech breaks mods and people lose the work and time they spent playing their characers.


Oh BTW.. Haunt me?? like some child scared of the monster in their closet?

Lol very strangeanalagy you made there kid. nice nerd rage too.

[coffinsnail]

i dont keep up with the thread 100% but you say alot have stated this, yet i have only seen you can your provide links to others who have stated it changes and breaks the whole game? because i have used it to install mods and no issues here yet, even when i remove them. however it has notified me of two modes that do basically the same change or changes to the exact same things that might conflict. thus i removed one left the one i wanted and no issues.

also i do not see how this program can delete system files when it does not even touch them can you explain in detail how the program is accessing system files and how it goes about deleting them as well as when they do the deletion? is it when you uninstall torchleech or what?

[Coney]

How can you expect people to care at this point? You fail to comprehend that the simple matter of folder renaming's total effect on any system is exactly 0 %... It's not sometimes it might do something, it will never ever have any kind of effect on anything at all! Period! BUT, if, and I stress IF, two mods where to have a folder of the same name, THEN problems would arise... That's why it a simple renaming has been done, actually it is a service to you so you don't have to do it yourself...

And about the windows files... If you, by now, STILL thinks that the program actually deletes windows files, and that it was not a joke made by the author because you were making totally ridiculous accusations, I suggest you create a new user on the forum... Cause this WILL haunt you forever... I am sorry... The only thing you can do about it at this point is make a sincere apology before you ridicule yourself even more...

Oh BTW.. Haunt me?? like some child scared of the monster in their closet?

Lol very strangeanalagy you made there kid. nice nerd rage too.

Say what? I get that english is not your first language... mine neither... But you need to start thinking instead of just going on about stuff you do not have a clue about:S

And btw... Rage??? Where? I was trying to help you so that you do not make yourself even more of a clown... But whatever.... Suit yourself..

[aholman]

I just thought I should put this quote in here incase no one else mentioned or you didn't look at this particular topic(merging classes):

Spoiler: show

If you download Class Creator, just keep pasting the class line from the custom class into that layout file. Then you just tweak the numbers.

For example this is your line in your charactercreate layout file.

<Window Type="GuiLook/RadioButton" Name="Fury">
<Property Name="UnifiedPosition" Value="{{0,5},{0,210}" />
<Property Name="UnifiedSize" Value="{{0,64},{0,64}}" />
<Property Name="SelectedImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericonselected" />
<Property Name="HoverImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericonlit" />
<Property Name="UnselectedImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericon" />
<Property Name="ID" Value="3" />
<Property Name="Tooltip" Value="Select Fury" />
<Property Name="onClick" Value="guiSelect1"/>
</Window>

This is how I changed it when I copied it into the class creator layout file.

<Window Type="GuiLook/RadioButton" Name="Fury">
<Property Name="UnifiedPosition" Value="{{0,5},{0,350}" />
<Property Name="UnifiedSize" Value="{{0,64},{0,64}}" />
<Property Name="SelectedImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericonselected" />
<Property Name="HoverImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericonlit" />
<Property Name="UnselectedImage" Value="set:Logo image:vanquishericon" />
<Property Name="ID" Value="5" />
<Property Name="Tooltip" Value="Select Fury" />
<Property Name="onClick" Value="guiSelect1"/>
</Window>

As long as you keep adding 70 to UnifiedPosition value it puts it one place down. Since it is the fifth class for me it goes at 350 and then I changed ID Value to 5. To add a sixth class like the Airbender I would just copy the Airbender class line and change the UnifiedPosition to 420 and ID Value to 6. The only thing I do after that is run Class Creator which will now open showing all the installed classes and generate item files to make sure the equipment goes where it should when you equip it. Also using something like Torchleech I have Class Creator load prior to all other classes so the game uses that class layout file.

[TorchLeech]

While my sarcasm should be really obvious and everyone recognized it, i would post it nevertheless for the protocol: TLeech doesn't delete any files in windows installations of course. I don't believe that anyone get this for truth.

[Hexx]

Torchleech changes mod files and causes data loss.

I advise against using it.

[Coney]

Torchleech changes mod files and causes data loss.

I advise against using it.

Would you please just stop?? No one else than you has had this happen to them, except the ones not using the class creator tool and the ones not reading the INGAME warnings that says it's dangerous to add or remove mods after character creation... Please do stop... It is getting annoying to the rest of us...

[Jupiah]

Hexx, you are an idiot. You lost your data when reinstalling Tier3 Ancients because of a flaw in Tier3 Ancients. Because the mod doesn't assign GUID numbers to the items, the game generates them randomly and automatically and these are saved in your character's save file. When the mod is uninstalled and reinstalled, it generates new random GUID numbers which don't match the old ones, again because Tier3 Ancients doesn't have any assigned to the items it adds by default.

You still would have lost all your items if you'd uninstalled and reinstalled Tier3 Ancients manually (assuming you cleared your mod cache files (I think)). This particular problem was not one caused by Torchleech, and has nothing to do with the mod install folder name being changed.

[Hexx]

Hexx, you are an idiot....[/i].

Your the goddamn idiot. you fail to have thourougly read this entire thread. I am not the only person this has happened to too. If you find my original post than look a couple posts above that you will find there is someone else it happened too.

You still would have lost all your items if you'd uninstalled and reinstalled Tier3 Ancients manually (assuming you cleared your mod cache files (I think)). This particular problem was not one caused by Torchleech, and has nothing to do with the mod install folder name being changed.

Than there needs to be a warning inside torchleech that states when reisntalling mods that data may be lsot because Torchleech changes the mod.

Torchleech finds a manually installed mod and reports that it may be different than the one it has listed. than says you should try reinstalling the mod. so i did. the result is that data was lost. Torchleech is at fault not the me nor the mod author's.

Again i am not the only person that has had this problem.

If you are to stupid to realise that i am not the first person to report this than you should go back and re-read this thread.

Have a good day.

[pampl]

Than there needs to be a warning inside torchleech that states when reisntalling mods that data may be lsot because Torchleech changes the mod.

Just a head's up but that data would be lost no matter how you reinstalled that particular mod, due to a problem with the mod. You could have named the folder anything and it would have still had the same problem. Hope this helps.

[Coney]

Hexx, you are an idiot....[/i].

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE! your the goddamn idiot. you fail to have thourougly read this entire thread. I am not the only person this has happened to too. If you find my original post than look a couple posts above that you will find there is someone else it happened too.

You still would have lost all your items if you'd uninstalled and reinstalled Tier3 Ancients manually (assuming you cleared your mod cache files (I think)). This particular problem was not one caused by Torchleech, and has nothing to do with the mod install folder name being changed.

Than there needs to be a warning inside torchleech that states when reisntalling mods that data may be lsot because Torchleech changes the mod.

Torchleech finds a manually installed mod and reports that it may be different than the one it has listed. than says you should try reinstalling the mod. so i did. the result is that data was lost. Torchleech is at fault not the me nor the mod author's.

Again i am not the only person that has had this problem.

If you are to fucking stupid to realise that i am not the first person to report this than you should go back and re-read this thread.

you all can goto fucking hell.

Have a good day.

It seriously doesn't matter if you are not the first one this has happened to... It is NOT torchleech fault... It is the mod! And it says that it is dangerous everytime you log in in the actual game! Everyone else but you already knows this, and have therefore learned to fix the problem before starting out new characters... You should simply have done the same...

[Jupiah]

you fail to have thourougly read this entire thread. I am not the only person this has happened to too. If you find my original post than look a couple posts above that you will find there is someone else it happened too.

Yes, I know that someone else had a problem with losing data from a mod. Guess which mod BigNTasty7 lost data from? Tier3 Ancient Items. That's right, he had a problem with the same mod you did. The mod that has a flaw that causes the loss of all items it adds if uninstalled and reinstalled.

Now tell me, if two people have a problem with installing the same mod using a program that automates mod installation, and that program has absolutely no problem installing any other mods, don't you think it's far more likely that the problem lies with that mod, and not the program?

Than there needs to be a warning inside torchleech that states when reisntalling mods that data may be lsot because Torchleech changes the mod.

*Sigh*

Torchleech does not change the mod aside from the folder name, and the name of the mod folder has no impact or effect whatsoever on the mod. Seriously, if you were to go and rename every mod folder in your Application Data\runic games\torchlight\mods directory without changing the contents of them, it would have no effect on your game (unless you used some crazy special characters).

Torchleech finds a manually installed mod and reports that it may be different than the one it has listed. than says you should try reinstalling the mod. so i did. the result is that data was lost. Torchleech is at fault not the me nor the mod author's.

It is the fault of the mod author. Tier3 Ancient Items has a flaw that causes loss of data when reinstalled. You would have eventually needed to reinstall it and discovered this problem on your own, all Torchleech did in this case was bring the bug in Tier3 Items to light sooner by virtue of making installing and reinstalling mods easier (something that most people consider a good thing).

I honestly cannot understand how you can blame a mod distributor for a flaw in one of them mods it hosts. You may as well blame fileplanet or TESNexus or moddb.com because a mod you downloaded damaged your game. Sorry, but Torchleech is not liable for issues caused by mods, it just hosts and installs them for you. It doesn't make them and it doesn't test them for bugs or troubleshoot them.

[Jonaleth]

At this point, I ask you fellas to please ignore the guy No amount of convincing from anyone other than the Tier3 item's modauthor can change his view. Alert the modauthor, pm him and tell him to post here!!!

But, the important and graver thing is, I seriously hope the TorchLeech development isn't stalled by these ... 'events'.

The community has been seeing a wee bit of hostility nowadays

[Lathlas]

Torchleech changes mod files and causes data loss.

I advise against using it.

Hexx posts utter nonsense and complains about semi-valid problems to the wrong people.

I advise against paying attention.

[StonerMk2]

As a user thats been using Torchleech since day one of its release ive yet to have one single problem with the program. Also theres no way in hell the program could have possibly deleted system files since it doesnt actually access any system files, hell you dont actually even install Torchleech, you drag and drop the whole program on your desktop.

If someone lost system files then obviously they have much bigger problems and should be actually looking into seeing if their computers been hacked and are running every virus in the book.

[TorchLeech]

Please calm down guys.

Than there needs to be a warning inside torchleech that states when reisntalling mods that data may be lsot because Torchleech changes the mod.

I can understand your frustration of losing 60+ hours of gameplay - but if you read the posts above carefully you should see that you are "witch-hunting" this tool at the moment. Even if it is not our fault (please try to understand this before you post with font size 150 again) we are discussing the possibility to integrate a warning message for mods like "Tier 3 Ancient Items". One solution could be to display a warning dialog "Deinstall/Update an item mod can cause item lost for existing characters. Do you really want to deinstall/update this mod?" everytime you deinstall an unsupported mod (font in red color). For supported versions like "Tier 3 Ancient Items" - where we knows about the missing GUIDs problem - we could show this up too. If you have a better idea, let us know.

Hopefully we can move this discussion back to normal speech level.

But, the important and graver thing is, I seriously hope the TorchLeech development isn't stalled by these ... 'events'.

Don't worry, this has no impact on TLeech. We are waiting for such a discussion since the first mod. This is a normal problem for Addon/Mod-Tools. Most users blame these tools for problems occured by mods. You can wait a month and you will see the first "it's a trojan, a keylogger, a virus" post. We can do nothing against this but try to descripe the actions (from our software) as detailed as possible/wanted. Most things like "mod.dat", config- or temporary files were explained already in this thread. If someone has any questions about TLeech and what it does at different steps, we will explain it. The FAQ at our website is a good start point for new users.

Hexx seems to be really frustrated about that this mod has break his long played characters. It is up to himself to recognize, that a mod has break his savegames. Not the tool. Several users tried to explain this without success (btw thanks for your helping hands guys!). I think we can stop our effort for now. But "Idiot, fucking asshole" helps nothing at all - please calm down and stay away of this kind of words. Thanks.

[Omnifas]

Think you should just have a Uninstall Message for everything.

IMO you shouldn't have to since Runic left sufficient warnings for changing mods and the effects on save files(red text everytime you change a mod), but its for the better anyways.

[TorchLeech]

I just thought I should put this quote in here incase no one else mentioned or you didn't look at this particular topic(merging classes):

Merging classes: Sounds not really complex. As i understand your post, there is a layout-file (plain text) in every class mod which must be changed in some numbers like you quoted. Every additional mod +70 and the correct class mod counter. After this change the tool "Class Creator" correct all items in the mods with new IDs. We have already a category "Classes" or/and "Conversions" where we can mark new class mods. Maybe we can implement a "Class editor" or something where you can order the class mods in a list and autoassign the calculated IDs (+70 +70 +70). This editor could pop up when you install a new class mod. I don't know yet what "magical" things the Class Creator does with the item files. If it is a simple step (as run through all text files and replace a ID) we can implement this too. If this is a more complex process, we can look to work semi-automatic with the Class Creator tool.

I would be happy, if other users would post their way/experiences to work with multiple class mods in addition to aholman.

[jadewah]

This is frikkin hilarious. I loled at windows file joke.

*reads through last two pages while munching on popcorn*