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Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:21 pm

Hi there,

Looks like you made great efforts for optimizing the game but with my 1008HA (Atom N280: 1,66ghz; Memory: 1go; Intel GMA 950)

There is no stronger netbook avaible (or the latest Ion and the 600$'s netbooks which aren't :p)

Anyway you said 17fps on a post, yes I have 25fps on main menu, then 15 on city, then 10 on dungeon and 6 when 4 monsters on screen :/

Am my messing with something? I have 300memory used by my OS+other programs on background and still that FPS... It's barely unplayable; same if I disable all my background programs.

Any luck we'll be able to play on netbook one day?

P.S.: playing on netbook version, all set to lowest, even with 600*400 same FPS
(thank's)
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby darthpanda16 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:30 pm

What OS are you running?
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:33 pm

windows XP, are you playing on Netbook?
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby Robosauce » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:34 pm

Same here. Netbook mode doesn't help very much. I thought I'd get at least a steady 18-20 fps but I'm getting like 8-10 with hardly any background applications running and the core clock of the GMA 950 OC'd! I don't mind barebones visuals as long as I'm getting decent frames. (BUT, I do appreciate that you guys made the effort to include netbook players. No other developer would do that, so kudos!)
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:54 pm

same here, it would be fine with only 10% animation :(
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby darthpanda16 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:01 pm

Even though the game CAN run on netbooks, doesn't mean it WILL run.

If your netbook has a Intel video chipset, you may have difficulty running it. If it has an nvidia chipset, you shouldn't have any issues if you are running Win7 or XP.
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby Fanatik » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:19 pm

I'm running TL on a Dell Inspirion Mini - out of the box frames are not terrific on low settings from netbook mode. I will be tweaking it a bit though later and will post findings.
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby Mivo » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:13 pm

On my HP Mini 2140 I get an average of 15 fps. It goes down to 8 or so in battles, which isn't really all that playable. I tweaked some and will read up on some GMA 950 tweaking tips that I saw a couple of days ago in a blog (finding it again is the tricky part). Still a week until my new desktop arrives. Might turn my experimental Linux box back into a XP machine just so that I can play. ;)

Are there any actual netbooks (not ultra portables that cost twice as much as an actual netbook) that use a nVidia chipset?
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby DanSSJ4 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:27 pm

I just Installed it on my little Laptop, not a Netbook but specs are like a net book,

Centrino 1.6
512 MB Ram
Intel 82852 GME Video

and I had similar results, however, I went into the setting.txt and set
NO SOUNDS :1
this will disable the sound, after doing that I was able to get a 15-18 FPS during battles. 25 when no monsters present
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:25 am

Thx for information where is that file on steam version? Besides it turns sound effect+music or only one? Both off means higher speed!

Any tweak possibility for my gma?

Ps: im on my phone
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:00 am

back to home going to check

P.S.: check this thread "theterribleman"
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby SoMoN » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:57 am

(mhh triple post)

Well, tried no sound mode, SAME FPS (which is really strange) but games runs better but still not really playable...

At least I tried, gotta wait week ends now...

thanks you all

(but what's the point with netbook mode? there could also be a windows 95 mode and giving 3fps still meaningless)
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby TheTerribleMan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:13 am

I have some information regarding my experience with a netbook here:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1832

I'll join the tweaking, if somebody can point me in the right direction.

To be clear, though, while I am dissapointed about the performance I'm getting (I expected better, what with the official comments), I still think the game is great (when I play on more powerful machines). I just really want to play it on my netbook.
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby neogramps » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:17 am

I have gone through settings and disabled sound, made corspes disappear and disabled any lighting effects, but it's still barely playable, which is a shame - I had looked forward to being able to play this at lunchtime at work, but seems that I'll have to stick to playing it at home, unless some performance tweaks are forthcoming from devs/mods
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Invisible pet...

Postby TheTerribleMan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:27 am

According to the game manual, there is an option for an "invisible pet".

Does anybody know how to set this? Maybe one less character on the screen would increase performance.

I don't know how it would affect pets doing damage, etc, since I can't figure out how to set it.
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby neogramps » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 am

invisible pets don't do damage as far as i'm aware so that's something I'd want to avoid; I'm currently going through all of settings seeing if I can improve it by fiddling with clipping settings and the like.

oh and i'm using an aspire one, 1GB ram, Win7, pristine machine, min background tasks
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby TheTerribleMan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:58 am

neogramps wrote:invisible pets don't do damage as far as i'm aware so that's something I'd want to avoid; I'm currently going through all of settings seeing if I can improve it by fiddling with clipping settings and the like.


Yeah, I agree.

neogramps wrote:oh and aspire one, 1GB ram, Win7, pristine machine, min background tasks


I'm running XP SP3, and it's a really clean system (pretty new install, nothing crazy going on, pretty tweaked with msconfig, etc).
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby Mivo » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:03 am

There is a NO PET :0 option in the settings.txt file, but I don't know if that makes your pet invisible or just puts it in a bag. The effect, if any, may be the same, in case you want to try out.

I also believe the issues are caused by the CPU, not the video system. I tweaked some stuff in the Intel/GMA settings, but it had no impact on the performance. It also can't be the 1 GB since I installed the game on an old desktop that also only has 1 GB RAM, and it worked flawlessly there in 1680x1050 (P4 3Ghz, X700pro) with everything on max. (This makes waiting for my new desktop/gaming rig so much easier -- my old one bit the dust a few days ago and the new one hasn't arrived yet ... yes, I burn through my activation charges here. It was even worth it to remove Linux from that box and spent hours putting XP on it.)
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby vague » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:54 am

Try GMA booster. Linky ---> http://gmabooster.com/
Supposedly a lot of netbooks underclock the video card to keep energy usage down. This program is supposed to boost the GMA clock back up to what its designed for. Don't worry it doesnt hurt anything. I've been using it for a while, but it doesnt seem to really do much. Maybe an extra frame or 2 in other games.

Seems like there should be some way of making this game run better. I was able to play Aion for little bit on this netbook. This game should be a lot less taxing than a year old mmo.
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Re: Any Hope for Netbook's players?

Postby TheTerribleMan » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:37 am

I've tried GMABooster in the past, and there really isn't any difference in performance.
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