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Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a RMAH

Postby demoth » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:42 pm

Hear me out, because if done on a -drop limited and tougher from the start (almost impossible for new players)- secure server system with ladder resets and such, it can all be easily funded off a 10% transaction cut to Runic. Makes sense in this genere to support the resources to keep replay value high. There is a reason inferior weapons are still selling fast for $250 in D3. Modding and self imposed ethos is nice and all, but intrinsic feeling of value comes from the ability to exist on a server supported by the game and policed. Constant ladder type resets keep low lev gear in demand. One simple step and Runic would make money destroying a bland and skilless D3. Otherwise, people will cheat and burn out quick or simply assume everyone better is modded.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Saethori » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:43 pm

There's something familiar about this suggestion, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Arlian » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:49 pm

RMAH! HOT DOG!

Let me just dupe these 5 level 100 legendaries and sell them for $8 each, I'll make a killing.

The way I figure, I just have to dupe 9000 of them, at $8, I can pay off my house!

Why not dupe 1 more for myself, then I'll have OVER 9000!!! legendaries to sell to suckers players that thought this was a good idea.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Practiti0ner » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:56 pm

I have nothing to say but NO...

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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Hahalo » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:57 pm

Not sure if is joke or not..

1st this is NOT a MMO. RMAH don't work in multiplayer/single player focus game.

2nd this game focus on FUN as value, not profit.

3rd you want make money? Go open a convenient stalls, because Sir, I want to put my rice in my wash machine.

The security measurements, hacking problems, legal issues, are screwing D3 up so badly that RMAH is (at the moment) a major disaster for Diablo Series.

That any thoughts of implementing it without very very indept study on the RMAH is basically "Going Full Retard". And you don't want that.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Skullptura » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:00 pm

Arlian wrote:The way I figure, I just have to dupe 9000 of them, at $8, I can pay off my house!

Why not dupe 1 more for myself, then I'll have OVER 9000!!!

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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Arlian » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:05 pm

Arlian wrote:The way I figure, I just have to dupe 9000 of them, at $8, I can pay off my house!

"But Arlian..." I hear someone saying, "9000 items is going to take forever"
It takes 1 minute TOPS to dupe an item. This is $8 per MINUTE. Keep in mind that the scale MULTIPLIES. 1 to 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 to 32. But even if I'm playing it dumb and duping one item per minute, I'm making 60x minimum wage. >_>

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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Kharzon » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13 pm

demoth wrote:Hear me out, because if done on a -drop limited and tougher from the start (almost impossible for new players)- secure server system with ladder resets and such, it can all be easily funded off a 10% transaction cut to Runic. Makes sense in this genere to support the resources to keep replay value high. There is a reason inferior weapons are still selling fast for $250 in D3. Modding and self imposed ethos is nice and all, but intrinsic feeling of value comes from the ability to exist on a server supported by the game and policed. Constant ladder type resets keep low lev gear in demand. One simple step and Runic would make money destroying a bland and skilless D3. Otherwise, people will cheat and burn out quick or simply assume everyone better is modded.


And you wonder why D3 only has 30% of it's players left. Of that 70% that quit, how many got their money back? I was fully refunded without so much as a Why? D3 was built around teh RHAH. Just this little fact alone, should have made EVERYONE get a refund and boycott Blizzard:

When you put an item up for auction, you don't know who the seller is. Blizzard can create items and sell them. You'd never know.

So, with that in mind, I'll never buy another Blizzard game, ever. I even told them so in asking for my refund. Next MMO? Who cares, rep reuined, better cater to the SEA market, like they've done with WoW now. Commercials went from 11 Million Subscribers to, 11 Million have TRIED WoWankers. Lies lies lies lies and nothing but more Lies from Blizzard.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby sonic » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:17 pm

to OP:

I know of a game that you would really like. Want RMAH? You can always go play with it. I don't state it's name because i'm now really bored of this whole debate, but I'm sure you have a pretty accurate guess....
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Gunther30 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:22 pm

I'm sure this is a troll thread but yea...no thanks
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Omnifas » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:34 pm

Honestly the very lean cap on RMAH prices to me is nothing more than an extended publicity stunt. Some time into d3 lifespan Blizzard will reveal stats saying the average price of sold RMAH ITEMS was 200 dollars, artificially increasing the value of D3. I would agree with you if there were strict caps on prices and initial risk investment. Meaning the max you can sell for is say $10 dollars and there's a opening fee. Making it more about the trading of goods instead of greed. So if you duped 9000 of something you'll be paying 90 dollars in opening fees :P
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Zidders » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:35 pm

You people are so easy to troll, it's not funny. Good thing i'm not evil, i'd be kiting you all over the place while dancing a merry jig.

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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Omnifas » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:00 am

Seriously though, despite my early reactions to a RMAH(when Blizz first announced it), I don't see a negative in allowing players to make money from playing your game, it just all in the implementation.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby vash1053 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:14 am

RMAH is sucking the life out of D3. It was a horrible mistake and I hope it dies a horrible death.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Hahalo » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:29 am

It's quite obvious the trend is meant to be a troll bait, like Duh.. however if left unanswered it might just escalate out of control. Good thing everyone is against RMAH.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby kitetsu » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:02 am

I'm very hardly the model of all good boy scouts, and even I'm skeptical of the idea of an RMAH.

Why the need for one, anyway?
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Omnifas » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:08 am

I'm not against the idea of an RMAH, just a certain implementation of it.

TBH from a seller's POV I don't think people hate the idea of a RMAH, everyone, EVERYONE wants to make extra income(for the luxuries in life). People hate that certain implementation. People hate how that implementation revolves around greed on both ends, consumer AND publisher. From a Buyer's POV, there's the "epeen" issue, I earned my stuff vs. You bought yours. And that the RMAH devalues items.

And I agree It's not really needed, just that if it's done right it's beneficial to all parties.
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby sadron » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:14 am

DELETE THIS ABOMINATION OF A THREAD!
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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Omnifas » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:26 am

sadron wrote:DELETE THIS ABOMINATION OF A THREAD!

Lets not.(Well maybe move it to Off topic)

It actually brings up a good question, do people hate a certain RMAH or do they hate the idea, and are they afraid of what it brings.

That and Hiding it(or negative one lining it to death) isn't going to change the fact that A huge company is using it and giving a grand example of more profit for basically doing nothing. It's better if people see it's flaws, it's benefits, and how people feel about them.

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Re: Please- join the DarkSide and implement some form of a R

Postby Snarkyneno » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:45 am

Omnifas wrote:I'm not against the idea of an RMAH, just a certain implementation of it.

TBH from a seller's POV I don't think people hate the idea of a RMAH, everyone, EVERYONE wants to make extra income(for the luxuries in life). People hate that certain implementation. People hate how that implementation revolves around greed on both ends, consumer AND publisher. From a Buyer's POV, there's the "epeen" issue, I earned my stuff vs. You bought yours. And that the RMAH devalues items.

And I agree It's not really needed, just that if it's done right it's beneficial to all parties.


Just can't resist this :oops:

Your point that everyone wants to make extra income (as worded) falls apart as soon as you find one example of a person who doesn't. I volunteer to be that person. I don't want one more cent of extra income - I want far more luxury time to enjoy the good things in life that I already have. It's really easy to rearrange your needs and desires to allow yourself to be happy with what you have instead of needing anything more. If there is anything out there in the world that I don't have because I can't afford it, then I don't miss it in the slightest.

As to your real point, there still is a rather large contingent of people who enjoy games as fun diversions and are completely against them becoming second (or third, etc.) jobs. Adding a monetary incentive to playing a game totally changes the underlying reason for playing, and for some (like me) completely sucks all the fun out of it. It's not the particular implementation that is lacking, it's the entire process of turning a game into a job.

In an aside that may or may not be relevant, I also derive no enjoyment whatsoever from gambling - another form of entertainment whose primary goal is to earn more money.
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