[WIP] Jedi Class (and lightsabers!)

[SpuneDagr]

Played it last night. Brings back memories!
Would you mind some feedback?

Stuff I loved:

The pet choice in the character creation screen instead of having to eat a fish.
The intro image/text (brought a big smile to my face)
The padawan summon skill - very flavorful and cool
Force choke works!

Little things that still need work:

The walking sound effect from the little droid gets old really quick. Probably should turn it off
Could the drop rate for lightsabers be adjusted? I didn't see a single one
Force choke seems underpowered compared to Force Push

But seriously, thank you for taking over this project. It looks great. You guys are awesome.

[shaggoth]

And what's with that lil thing there was still hope about?

[Phanjam]

Played it last night. Brings back memories!
Would you mind some feedback?

Of course we wouldn't mind feedback!

Little things that still need work:

The walking sound effect from the little droid gets old really quick - agree -. Probably should turn it off - easy enough

Could the drop rate for lightsabers be adjusted? I didn't see a single one - that's odd; I always get lots of 'em when I play. have you got any other mods installed?

Force choke seems underpowered compared to Force Push - I admit skills balance, individually and as a set, isn't quite there yet will put it on the to-do list...

Stuff I loved:

The pet choice in the character creation screen instead of having to eat a fish.
The intro image/text (brought a big smile to my face)
The padawan summon skill - very flavorful and cool
Force choke works!

...seriously, thank you for taking over this project. It looks great. You guys are awesome.

I'm sure I speak for the rest of the mod-team when I say "thanks very much"!

[Phanjam]

And what's with that lil thing there was still hope about?

Sorry Shaggoth, I missed that statement. which post did you see it in?

[shaggoth]

well it was here - viewtopic.php?p=187213#p187213
but i guess you've wiped it from the face of the galaxy anyway you understand what i asked now, hopefully.

[belgarathmth]

Pardon my obtuseness, but has Force Push been fixed? This is the main thing holding me back from starting a new character with this mod. A Jedi character with working Force Push would be awesome. Working Lightsaber Skill would double the awesomeness.

[N3MES1S]

Hey Phanjam!! :p, i finally got the Jedi working in conjunction of my other classes (The Abomination as well, ^^), and i just played a bit, but i have a doubt.. wat is the purpose of the power converter?? i see it on my inventory but i cant do anything with it.. it is some kind of addon for the light sabers?? i still didnt get any lightsaber (i am level 10) so i cant try it out. Good job so far, i like it (but i still dont feel like a Padawan without any lightsabers in my hand.. ).

[Phanjam]

Hi N3M3SIS! The "Power converter" is one of the Lightsabers available, so it's odd that you aren't able to use it . Did you try equipping it like a normal sword (drag it over to the sword-slot in your inventory/equipment panel)? Also, the mod should have started your Jedi character with an ordinary lightsaber already equipped - did it not give you a lightsaber to start with?

[N3MES1S]

Nop... i have the power converter in my inventory, but i CANT equip it. I tried to drop it on the weapon slot, i tried to equip it using the second mouse button, but nothing happens. The game says something about i cant use it. The character starts without any weapon, just the power converter in the inventory. I imagined it was a weapon, but since i cant do anything with it, i am a bit confused. This is weird, i am the only one who had this issue?????

Besides, i noticed the power converter has no description or stats at all, just the name of the weapon and thats it.

Anyways, talking about other things... i re-compiled all the mods i had, just in case, and now the jedi class is messing up all my classes items :p (again). I diecided to DELETE the original classes (Alchemist,Vanquisher,Destroyer) since i never use em, and now i have space for adding 2 more classes and i hope i wont have any more problems. BUT, it is too tedious to edit every item file and erase the original classes wardrobe lines, any ideas on how to do this in a fast way??? or... someone have the item files without any wardrobe reference in it??

[N3MES1S]

After 4 hours deleting the original clases wardrobe references from the item files to allow the jedi to compile without any problem, i found that the item fixer doesnt work with item files without any wardrobe specified. Do we need to have the original classes wardrobes written on the item files for the item fixer to work??

Cant we launch the game without the original classes installed??

[Phanjam]

i have the power converter in my inventory, but i CANT equip it. I tried to drop it on the weapon slot, i tried to equip it using the second mouse button, but nothing happens. The game says something about i cant use it.
Okay we need to see exactly what the game told you pls.

The character starts without any weapon, just the power converter in the inventory.
A-ha! That's the lightsaber you're supposed to start with then! Pls also copy the contents of your "ogre.log" file and post them here as a reply (in [spoiler] tags pls )

Anyways, talking about other things... i re-compiled all the mods i had, just in case, and now the jedi class is messing up all my classes items :p (again).
Messing up, as in the armors don't show up right?

I decided to DELETE the original classes (Alchemist,Vanquisher,Destroyer) since i never use em, and now i have space for adding 2 more classes and i hope i wont have any more problems. BUT, it is too tedious to edit every item file and erase the original classes wardrobe lines, any ideas on how to do this in a fast way??? or... someone have the item files without any wardrobe reference in it??
This was a very extreme step. I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner - I would have advised you against it as I don't think it would have helped much.

After 4 hours deleting the original clases wardrobe references from the item files... i found that the item fixer doesnt work with item files without any wardrobe specified. Do we need to have the original classes wardrobes written on the item files for the item fixer to work??
Yes you do! Those item-fixers "copy" the existing lines in the item files, revise them slightly for the new class/es and then add the revised lines to the file. So without the original lines in there, there is nothing to copy!

Cant we launch the game without the original classes installed??
I know you can remove them from the character selection options, but I don't think removing them from the game has been done before. But again, I doubt this will help much to solve your current problem

[N3MES1S]

Thx for the detailed response, for parts ->

i have the power converter in my inventory, but i CANT equip it. I tried to drop it on the weapon slot, i tried to equip it using the second mouse button, but nothing happens. The game says something about i cant use it.
Okay we need to see exactly what the game told you pls.

I dont know exactly wat the game told me, cuz it is a different phrase evrytime (u know the automated response when u try to use something that u cant use or equip on any way or the game thinks "wat the hell u want me to do with that?" lol)

The character starts without any weapon, just the power converter in the inventory.
A-ha! That's the lightsaber you're supposed to start with then! Pls also copy the contents of your "ogre.log" file and post them here as a reply (in [spoiler] tags pls )

OK, i need to remove the abomination and replace it with the Jedi (the game will not allow me to have both at the same time, too much resources.... ) and after that i will post the ogre here

Anyways, talking about other things... i re-compiled all the mods i had, just in case, and now the jedi class is messing up all my classes items :p (again).
Messing up, as in the armors don't show up right?

The armors yes, they show up, but messed up (classic armour bug)

I decided to DELETE the original classes (Alchemist,Vanquisher,Destroyer) since i never use em, and now i have space for adding 2 more classes and i hope i wont have any more problems. BUT, it is too tedious to edit every item file and erase the original classes wardrobe lines, any ideas on how to do this in a fast way??? or... someone have the item files without any wardrobe reference in it??
This was a very extreme step. I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner - I would have advised you against it as I don't think it would have helped much.

Well, it worked before, cuz i had the spritirst and the spiritdancer references and i wasnt using em, i deleted it to allow the Abomination (i coudnt before) and without re-compiling it seems that the Jedi can work fine too, but once i re-compile the Jedi, all gets messed up.

After 4 hours deleting the original clases wardrobe references from the item files... i found that the item fixer doesnt work with item files without any wardrobe specified. Do we need to have the original classes wardrobes written on the item files for the item fixer to work??
Yes you do! Those item-fixers "copy" the existing lines in the item files, revise them slightly for the new class/es and then add the revised lines to the file. So without the original lines in there, there is nothing to copy!

I imagined that lol. So, there is no way to have only the classes im playing in the dat files...

Cant we launch the game without the original classes installed??
I know you can remove them from the character selection options, but I don't think removing them from the game has been done before. But again, I doubt this will help much to solve your current problem

Well, if the game works with the original classes as any other modded one, it should work just fine, the problem is to erase those references from the dat files.. (i guess).

But if i would know how to make, for example the "trick" like Jericho class compilation mod to allow 20 classes working at the same time, i will not have all these problems :p

But yup, i suposse TL is very limited when managing mod resources.

I will post the ogre soon, keep tuned =)

[N3MES1S]

Phanjam, im afraid the ogre.log file doesnt show any error msg or anything else. Everything seem to load perfect, but just in case ->

This is the last segment of the ogre.log file

21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle EventHandler Type 'DoScale' registered
21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle Extern Type 'Gravity' registered
21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle Extern Type 'SphereCollider' registered
21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle Extern Type 'BoxCollider' registered
21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle Extern Type 'Vortex' registered
21:32:40: ParticleUniverse: Particle Behaviour Type 'Slave' registered
21:32:40: Plugin successfully installed
21:32:40: *-*-* OGRE Initialising
21:32:40: *-*-* Version 1.6.4 (Shoggoth)
21:32:40: Path for saving is ... C:/Users/N3MES1S/AppData/Roaming/Runic Games/Torchlight/SAVE
21:32:40: Setting YRatio Init - 1.36719
21:32:47: Unable to determin file type( Best Guess ASCII ). You need to save the file as unicode - recommend doing it in word pad.C:/USERS/N3MES1S/APPDATA/ROAMING/RUNIC GAMES/TORCHLIGHT/MODS/WOESCOMBINEDGEMMOD/mod.dat
21:35:31: CreateViewports AspectRatio message - 1680 x 1050
21:35:31: CreateViewports AspectRatio message AR - 1.6
21:35:31: GAMEUI AspectRatio message - 1680 x 1050
21:35:31: GAMEUI AspectRatio message AR - 1.6
21:37:48: Saving character to :C:/Users/N3MES1S/AppData/Roaming/Runic Games/Torchlight/save/save.tmp
21:38:27: Saving character to :C:/Users/N3MES1S/AppData/Roaming/Runic Games/Torchlight/save/save.tmp

The msgs that the game says when i try to interact with the power converter are "That Is Impossible" and "I cant do that" lol.

Any ideas?? i looked into the basic light saber file but i didnt see anything out of normal...

I also tried to assing a different lightsaber as a starting one, but it didnt show up either, maybe some problems with the particles or something??

[N3MES1S]

I uninstalled the Jedi , waiting for your advises Phanjam, cuz i am afraid my Jedi doesnt work as it should, if u can solve the previous issues i will very happy to install it again!. Maybe it is just a conflict with other mods, but since the ogre.log file doesnt show anything, im totally lost. I am testing other classes and i need space for em, and since the Jedi doesnt work right i prefer to test other classes until it get fixed or we figure it out wats wrong..