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Please help, so frustrating

Postby sooka » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:12 pm

I have been playing this game everyday to level up one level and thorougly enjoy it... until now :/ I'm so sick of the enchanter shrine / person in town that can wipe an item from burliness to absolute zero in one click. I don't know why the concept even exists? I can understand if it dechanted one aspect of an item, but to blow the entire thing to bits? It makes me not want to play anymore, I had a favorite staff that I THOUGHT would be the last weapon I ever would need, then at a 5% enchant rate went to upgrade it and *poof*.

I don't have any mods, but is there a way to get the item back?

Many thanks....
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby BrianW » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:19 pm

Unless your saves were backed up or you placed the item in your shared stash and then backed that up before enchanting the item, it's probably not going to be possible to retrieve it. You might also try renaming your backup save file which is called backup.tmp, so name it to something like 1.svt or something. That's your most recent previous save. I wish I could give you a better answer than that. :/
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby Zidders » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:22 pm

Head on over to the Runic Games Fansite, download the HotSpot mod manager, and look for the mod 'Enchants never wipe' or 'Better enchanting' or any of the enchanting mods that exist. Enchanting was meant as an optional risk vs reward game mechanic that grows riskier the more you enchant. Want that uberly enchanted item? Then you risk losing it the more you enchant it.

http://www.runicgamesfansite.com/downlo ... ile&id=698

You can always use the console to give yourself that item, this will label your character 'cheater' and cause you to lose access to the shared stash. There are ways of delabeling yourself, tho. So, you COULD get the item back...it's just a lot easier to play around with mods and change the aspects of the game you aren't enjoying. Mods may also add features that make it so that you feel like hunting around for a new staff is worth spending the time.

If you need help with useing the console and any of that stuff, just let us know.
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby sooka » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:13 pm

Thanks for the replies. BrianW, I thought about looking for a save file the instant that the item was dis-enchanted, thanks for pointing out the name of the file.

Zidders, thanks for the links for the mods, I didn't even know they existed until going through the steam achievements! I fully understand the idea behind the enchant system, but think the penalty is too harsh, I think disenchanting ONE aspect of the item, not blowing it out of the water would make it enjoyable to use risk/vs/reward wise and I probably wouldn't even be trying to figure out how to backup my files because it would be more of a sting rather than heartbreak :)
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby Zidders » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:12 pm

Enchanting as far as I know it is going to be reworked this time around. Please, by all means let us know more about what you feel is wrong with it and how you think it could be better ^_^ I really hope this hasn't soured you on a really great game.
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby Witchlamp » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:44 pm

It happens to the best of us. Do you have a screenshot of the item? Perhaps you can use that a reference point for future staves that drop for you.

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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby Vodage » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:46 am

Seems like the resulting strategy would be to enchant the item that's almost good enough to replace one you're wearing if it only had one more stat, instead of playing lottery with your equipped items. Just something to consider next time.

Also, 5% is quite a bit. Makes more sense when you think about the difference between 2% and 5% relative to each other, instead of relative to 100%.
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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby dreamrider » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:01 pm

The whole point of the risk is to involve you in some serious gameplaying decision making before you take the risk. If you decide upping the item is worth the risk, you are SIMULTANEOUSLY deciding that you are willing to risk losing it (or its features) and that you could live without it if you had to. If that is NOT the full decision that you are considering and making before plunging the item into the light, then DON'T ENCHANT. A 5% chance WILL DISENCHANT about 1 time in 20 attempts.

A strategy to mitigate the disappointment is to wait until you have a second identical or very similar item before beginning to run up enchants. (Despite the name, Unique items are not unique.) Enchant the items alternately until one fails. Then STOP enchanting (until you run across another duplicate.

FWIW, I virtually never enchant at the town enchanter, except with very high level items. The enchantment based on item level instead of current character level, plus the doubled chance of disenchanting is just not worth it, even when I've got piles of gold.

Disenchanting weapons is almost never a permanent disaster, unless the have some Very Unique characteristic on them, like a Barter Skill enhancement or something. Almost all of the valuable weapon enhancements are the same ones that you are most likely to get from re-enchanting (phys & elem dam, +crits, health drain, etc). Additionally, you never lose any sockets you have already added. Since you are re-enchanting from a higher character base level than you were working from the last time, and possibly with more accumulated Treasure Hunter Skill, when you do the re-enchanting via dungeon Shrines you are almost certain to get more substantial buffs than on the previous cycle of enchantments.

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Re: Please help, so frustrating

Postby Omnicide » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:15 pm

Thanks for the info, Dreamrider; I had an Epic one-handed pistol for my Vanquisher that I actually got up to 1100 dps (very fast attack speed) by the Enchanter, but got it wiped at an Enchantment shrine at 4% chance. It really hurts to have that happen, especially after dropping 4-5k hard-earned gold on it. But it has made me a lot more careful about the whole enchanting process (I don't use any enchanting mods currently).
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