[WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

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[WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:52 pm

This mod adds seven chainsword weapons to Torchlight.

Four of them are based on the chainswords from Warhammer 40,000:
- Loyalist Marine's Chainsword (1-handed sword)
- Traitor Marine's Chainsword (1-handed sword)
- Ecclesiarchal Eviscerator (polearm)
- Repentia's Eviscerator (polearm)

The other three are original creations:
- Steampunk Chain-Glaive (polearm)
- Clockwork Chainsword (1-handed sword)
- Space-Age Electric Carving Knife (1-handed sword)

All are unique items, and have a requirement of level 30.

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For those interested, some technical details concerning the weapons can be found below:

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  • All of the weapons utilize basic texture animation (scrolling) to achieve the movement on the various cutting chains.
  • The Space-Age Electric Carving Knife uses a glow map with texture scrolling to achieve the "flashing red lights" effect.
  • The Clockwork Chainsword uses a texture rotation for the circular saw blade at the top end of the sword. The "face" of the blade (guide bar) uses a series of texture frames played in quick succession for the animation of the various elements shown on it (gears, clock hands, large screw, etc.)
  • The Steampunk Chain-Glaive uses particle effects in two different ways -- one for the steam/smoke coming out of the pipe-vent at the base of the handle, and the other for the two spinning gears on the blade.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Phanjam » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:37 pm

DEFINITELY will play these! Thanks very much for the technical texture explanations too Arkham - you inspire me to try out these techniques too :lol: !
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby screamosilence » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:13 pm

holy shizz its out! its out! downloading...
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby SixshotOverdrive » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:34 pm

Awesome work Arkham.

I'm curious though, did you try out the vertex animations?
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Rusty » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:59 pm

These look awesome!! Amazing work!
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:20 pm

SixshotOverdrive wrote:I'm curious though, did you try out the vertex animations?

Yeah, I tried it, although I didn't spend a ton of time on it. But I tried out what I thought would work -- vertex animations in Ogre store the animation in the .mesh file instead of a .skeleton file, so I set up an animation state thing, similar to the way the "idle" animation on shrines are set up, pointed all the stuff (that would ordinarily point at the animation skeleton) toward the mesh file and toward the animation clip inside of it, instead. Didn't work.
I wonder if I should PM one of the devs and ask them if this sort of thing is possible, or if I'm doing something wrong, because while the gears on the chain-glaive being set in as particles technically works, it would look a lot better if it could be done through vert animation.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby AttackGorilla » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:37 pm

awesome work :D , but no chainsaw axe... :cry:
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby SixshotOverdrive » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:54 pm

Arkham wrote:Yeah, I tried it, although I didn't spend a ton of time on it. But I tried out what I thought would work -- vertex animations in Ogre store the animation in the .mesh file instead of a .skeleton file, so I set up an animation state thing, similar to the way the "idle" animation on shrines are set up, pointed all the stuff (that would ordinarily point at the animation skeleton) toward the mesh file and toward the animation clip inside of it, instead. Didn't work.
I wonder if I should PM one of the devs and ask them if this sort of thing is possible, or if I'm doing something wrong, because while the gears on the chain-glaive being set in as particles technically works, it would look a lot better if it could be done through vert animation.

Ah, that's a shame. I'd say it's worth PMing the devs about though. I know OGRE supports them, but the multiple skeletons and *.animation files are all Torchlight, which suggests they aren't following the standard animation routine. So they would probably need to be linked in differently, that is, if they work at all.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:25 pm

All right, so I PMed Brian about it; he was kind enough to forward my question to one of Runic's animators. As the old cliche goes, I got good news and I got bad news:
Bad news is, vertex animation can't be done, even though Ogre supports it. However, the good news is TL2 is apparently going to support skeletal animation on weapons (in a limited form -- basically an idle and maybe a fidget animation), so it sounds like I can port this mod over and use that method of animation for the gears; and, being able to use that type of animation on weapons will open a whole host of other possibilities besides.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Brixtan » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:03 am

:o - WOW! These are freaking awesome Arkham! Great work man! 8-)

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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby RMUK » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:08 am

Meant to comment on this days ago! These weapons are pretty damn cool, Arkham - Thanks for sharing your mod! Absolutely top notch job on 'em, they're pretty kickass! 8-)
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby N3MES1S » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:53 pm

RMUK wrote:Meant to comment on this days ago! These weapons are pretty damn cool, Arkham - Thanks for sharing your mod! Absolutely top notch job on 'em, they're pretty kickass! 8-)



Unfortunately, i have this mod installed but for now i only did the chance to try 1 sword, so im still waiting (my test characters are about lvl 25), but i saw the models in the meshviewer and yea they are awesome, and they served as an example on wat we can do with weapons. It helped me a lot to experiment in the material management file and how the texture animations works.

But Arkham, i have one question, i still cant get a custom sound working on my weapons mod, i looked into your mod to see wat i was doing wrong, but i didnt see anything useful (i mean i did all the steps u did in your mod). I tried copying your sound files to my mod (just in case the sound must have some special formats) but still they didnt work, so i dunno if u did something special about the sound files.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:20 pm

N3MES1S wrote:but i saw the models in the meshviewer and yea they are awesome, and they served as an example on wat we can do with weapons. It helped me a lot to experiment in the material management file and how the texture animations works.

Glad it was able to help you with this. And I forgot to thank everyone for the compliments -- thanks, everybody!

N3MES1S wrote:But Arkham, i have one question, i still cant get a custom sound working on my weapons mod, i looked into your mod to see wat i was doing wrong, but i didnt see anything useful (i mean i did all the steps u did in your mod). I tried copying your sound files to my mod (just in case the sound must have some special formats) but still they didnt work, so i dunno if u did something special about the sound files.

Well, first I'd have to ask: are you linking up the sound effects to the weapons via text editor, or via TorchED?
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby N3MES1S » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:19 am

I am linking the sounds via text editor (it is easier for me). Should i use torched instead?
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:51 am

Personally, I wound up using TorchED. I had tried hooking them up through a text editor initially, only to encounter a similar problem (some of the weapons weren't making noise, while others were). When I did it through TorchED's sound panel thing, what I had done wrong became immediately clear, and I just found the whole process a lot quicker and clearer in general. So yeah, I'd recommend trying it that way and seeing if something's just hooked up wrong (given that you tried my mod's sound effects and couldn't get it to work, this is what the problem likely is).
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Morbus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:43 am

N3MES1S wrote:I am linking the sounds via text editor (it is easier for me). Should i use torched instead?


What Arkham said. When I tried to create a new sound group etc. for Doctor Bloodaxe (Webbstre's challenge), it never worked until I created it in TorchEd.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby N3MES1S » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:49 pm

Morbus wrote:
N3MES1S wrote:I am linking the sounds via text editor (it is easier for me). Should i use torched instead?


What Arkham said. When I tried to create a new sound group etc. for Doctor Bloodaxe (Webbstre's challenge), it never worked until I created it in TorchEd.


So, this is like when u create particle effects attached to weapons, if u dont use torched to link the particles with the layout file, it wont work.

I guess this is the same, the sounds need to be linked with torched to work, but i think i already tried once with no result, maybe i was doing something wrong, i will try it again in my next wip. Thx guys.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Jaz1 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:54 am

I was just wondering how to activate this mod? Are these items at a shop? or are they random drops/loot? please reply as soon as you can, thank you.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby N3MES1S » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:40 am

As far as i know, the items are spawned as regular items (of course they are unique so the probabilites of spawning the items are low). I think i saw once the clockwork sword in the shop, but to be honest, i only saw it once in a few months.. =). I stop using this mod cuz some weapons were not showing up correctly (particle issues i guess) but u need patience to adquire one of these weapons, since they are very rare. If u wish to know if the mod is installed correctly on your TL installation, just use the console and spawn manually any of the weapons, if u dont have any problems on that, the mod should be working ok.
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Re: [WEAPONS] Torchlight Chainsword Massacre

Postby Arkham » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:52 pm

Jaz1 wrote:I was just wondering how to activate this mod? Are these items at a shop? or are they random drops/loot? please reply as soon as you can, thank you.

Nemesis is correct, they are random.

N3MES1S wrote:I stop using this mod cuz some weapons were not showing up correctly (particle issues i guess)

Do you think you could specify which weapon(s) had the problem?
If it's the chain-glaive, the particle-related issue with that one basically can't be solved, at least for TL1. If it's something with one of the other ones though, that's likely a problem I'm not familiar with.
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