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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby jamesL » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:12 am

TurningWorm wrote:.. Newsflash folks, 99% of actual death is either bloodless or blood is released in a slow, steady stream over several minutes. ... Living things don't explode like water balloons..


well in my experience, that is exactly how they die
so you and I must be doing something different
maybe its just the way I prepare the subjects and the equipment I use ?
well, to each his own I suppose
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Morbus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:33 am

The reason for turning off graphic gore is that the display of graphic violence will make children insensitive towards gore, and it is not optically pleasing, either. In a child's world - when the child does not grow up in a ruined world after a war where they can find the skeleton of a soldier in a decayed uniform when they play in the fields - there is very little violence, and it should stay that way for a long time. This is because children should be allowed to be children, they will be thrown at life soon enough, they must be given a break. A happy childhood makes a more stable adult person. If someone says "The children need to be prepared for life!" then I will ask: "What kind of life?" No, children need to be spared, they need to be given time to be children. This is my opinion, it is formed from many decades of life.

For the advocacy of violence: I believe it is wrong that senior clerks are not allowed to hit silly junior clerks on the head with a ledger anymore. :lol:
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby MadMulligan » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:53 am

I'm glad the option to turn it off is in this game as well. I prefer a little less gore for one, but also it tends to distract me when playing the game. I sometimes lose sight of my character, mobs, pets, etc when a large amount of different effects are going on at the same time. The spell effects are cool and visually inform you of some vital information of what is going on. The blood pools tell me what I already know; the mob is dead. Plus, I sometimes can't see loot right away in the blood pools.

Many people love the blood effect, so yeah for choices.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Graeystone » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:48 am

TurningWorm - Don't know anything about real war do ya.

This isn't Mortal Kombat and the game should have the proper rating. If there is a litmus test to video game violence though it would be the latest Mortal Kombat game. Those Fatalities are as nasty as it gets and I still cringe thinking about them!
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby frozenfire » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:38 am

adoomgod wrote:Heh, how about a blood and gore slider, so you can go from confetti and giggles every time something dies to massive volcano blood decapitations.


that is the best suggestion i have read all year.. me want more blood and body parts flying!

@ doom

and may i ad if that charge bar hits full, then you hit crit your character will just smash the guts out of the monsters and your character will be covered with enemy's blood and entrails, that is if your melee.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby dreamrider » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:01 pm

frozenfire wrote:
adoomgod wrote:Heh, how about a blood and gore slider, so you can go from confetti and giggles every time something dies to massive volcano blood decapitations.


that is the best suggestion i have read all year.. me want more blood and body parts flying!

@ doom

and may i ad if that charge bar hits full, then you hit crit your character will just smash the guts out of the monsters and your character will be covered with enemy's blood and entrails, that is if your melee.


If Runic actually does this, to this degree, then I will stop buying their products. And I play TL with blood turned on all the time.

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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby amb2010 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:12 pm

Dragon Age did the whole crit = brutally murdering what ever you hit. Skyrim does a random chance on killing blow as well. I find it that it just ends up becoming a minor annoyance after the initial "that was awesome!" moment. Considering the amount of monsters you're killing I think it would wear thin pretty quickly and I'd even say possibly mess with the flow since you'd have to have a decent animation or it would look just like a normal crit-splosion (which is in the game if I'm remembering correctly).
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby RayBanJockey » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:46 pm

I think blood going everywhere is (to all but the very tinyest of children) kind of expected when you smash someones head in with Ye Olde Mallet Of Bludgeoning Death +2. What we shouldn't showing our young'uns in the first place is the actual smashing of heads - blood or no blood.

Honestly there are very few games I'd have a toddler on my lap while playing; it would be things like either EVE Online where they'd have no idea at all what's going on (and nor do I most of the time tbh), or Minecraft where at least you're building and creating stuff, which is an excellent lesson and a good dollop of fun!
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby hawkn » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:50 pm

It kind of reminds me of parents who give their kids Halo/CoD/TF2, then complain about the cussing, and gore. It's rated T/M for a reason.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby xani » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:18 am

hawkn wrote:It kind of reminds me of parents who give their kids Halo/CoD/TF2, then complain about the cussing, and gore. It's rated T/M for a reason.

Some parents like to find any excuse for their bad parenting practices :D It's never their fault but game/TV/music/whatever fault their kid is "bad" :D Altho it's nothing new.

Altho internet is kinda tough nut to crack, parents can't really block much (both in terms of "bad" sites, and online interactions) because typical kid will just find a way around it (or know someone who knows how to do that). Only real way is to "educate" and talk with kids, sadly a lot of parents use computer as something to give kid so it doesn't bother them.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Ulvaak » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:02 pm

Maybe this is another one of those situations we can mod in a slider... from zero blood and gore to full on ultraviolent Japanese samurai movie style blood fountain with flying limbs and splatter...
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby hawkn » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:47 pm

Ulvaak wrote:Full on ultraviolent Japanese samurai movie style blood fountain with flying limbs and splatter...


I want this.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Morbus » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:07 am

Ulvaak wrote:zero blood


I want this.


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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Seer » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:26 am

Excessive blood and gore is idiotic, from what I've seen TL2's level of gore and blood is ok. Having none at all by default isn't great either.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Ulvaak » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:38 am

So in the last 3 comments we have 3 different preferences for blood setting. What a wonderfully diverse group of people play this game. I think whoever comes up with a slider or something like it for blood will be doing a great service to the community. :)
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby Ragnar119 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:23 am

The game has toooo litttle blood. I want more. I want slider for more boooold and gore.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby releppes » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:13 am

I love the comments about poor parenting. They speak from experience?

My kids are pretty smart about video game playing. As a parent, I had the sit down talk with video games and violence. The response I got from my 7yr daughter was, "Dad, you know this stuff is only fake don't you?" I laughed and that ended the discussion. However, my kids...YES, that's right....my kids often request I turn off the extra blood and gore. It's not an age thing. It's not a parent thing. Some people are just not into the over-the-top effects. They're more into the game itself.

The same goes for the reference made to TF2 and Halo. Violence in games is one thing. Most kids get it. It's a cartoon. It's fake. It's not real. As for cussing and gore, it's all a matter of taste. Some people don't think of swearing as being cool. Some people who drink socially don't think being drunk is cool. It's all a matter of taste.

Then there's the attitude that if you don't want such things in your video games, don't buy them. Sadly, it's a very small market for video games that have good taste. The games are very lack luster and not as much fun as their gory counter parts. I personally hate the flying body parts in Team Fortress 2. I've always hated that effect. Then again, I'm not into goofy party hats, clowns, and confetti either. But I love the cell shaded cartoon style of game TF2, so I play anyway.

All in all, the effects in Torchlight are good for us (me and the kids). I very much prefer the graphics style of Torchlight over that of Diablo. Although I'm not into blood and gore myself, the blood and explosions are pretty good. Yeah, they're a little crazy at times, but it's a cartoon. It does add a nice element to the game.

I do have to admit, the thought of going against one of the bosses and hacking off an arm, only to have copious amounts of blood spew out, then hack off the other arm only to have even more blood spew about. Each time the boss yell out in a british accent, "I'm not dead yet!" Maybe that's the only boss you never totally defeat. After you hack off each limb, you walk away only to have the quadriplegic boss yelling taunts at you to come on back and fight. Guess you'd have to watch Monty Python's Holy Grail to appreciate the ridiculous humor.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby KrunkSplein » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:44 am

turnipz wrote:If they make a switch for no gore I definitely would like a switch for extra gore. Its only fair.


I find no flaw with this argument, though given the harsher rating boards in some countries the no gore switch might prove necessary rather than just convenient.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby gold163 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:00 am

Crits already explode enemies into meat chunk giblets. It's a wonder this game (or at least the first) gets away with being Teen-rated. If you want extra blood and gore just mod it in or play Left 4 Dead 2.
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Re: Turn Off Blood And Gore

Postby adoomgod » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:04 pm

There should be an extra-gore check box too. Instead of blood splatters you get oceans of red spray in all directions.
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