Runic's Top 10 Helpful Hints for Torched

[skull]

When they mentioned "This should hold you over until Monday" it was implied to me and it seems to allot of people.
With that said, I haven't seen one editor that was suppose to ship with a game, actually ship!
It happens and I always notice that the younglings always have the patience problem.

Professionalism has nothing to do with it. It just seems that they really wanted to get it to us on Monday but of course things happen. To me it looks like they are being professional by letting us know whats going on and not just letting us wonder whats going on! I'm sure they'll get it to us a quick as possible and having a fit "Tantrum" over it isn't going to complete it any faster. So I say play the game, write down mod idea's, do some home work, have a coke and a smile or just shut up! Whatever it is that you want to do until its ready and Im sure allot of people don't care what you do, just stop whining about it. We're up to 13 pages now and 60% of it is crying! Grow up and relax.

[dante2010]

You people that say they should "take their time" and whatever, whatever... seem to forget that we all paid good money for the game as well as the editor AS PROMISED. It's now 2 weeks since release and still no editor. If this whole thing was free, then ya I'd agree with you that people shouldn't bitch and complain. But since everyone paid $20 for it, then they have every right to be upset.

[Naihonn]

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With that said, I haven't seen one editor that was suppose to ship with a game, actually ship!
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Yeah, me too. I didnt see any ship with a game. Please, give me the ship with a game!!! Or at least a motorboat. And hurry, I need it before a spring thaw.

[ReinierK]

Yes, it would ship with an editor.
Yes, you paid for it.
Yes, you are right when it comes to the details.
Yes, you anticipated it very much, maybe even more than the game itself.
Yes, Runic made it look like Monday would be the big day.

No, you won't be any happier if you get a buggy editor.

[skull]

No ones arguing that I or anyone who bought that game doesn't have the right!
What I and quite a few others are saying is that complaining every few seconds about what is obviously a problem isn't very constructive.
And hearing people rant on and on about the same thing is ridiculous. If they were to just post and say Im angry (for instance) and leave it at that then ok, but people just keep going and going like that freakin energizer bunny. It starts to sound like that brat from the new Willie Wanka movie, "Daddy I WANT IT NOW!"

It just gets old and the fact that Im responding probably is a waist of time because you guys cant let go and will have to post again just to point out that im wrong so Im not replying again and perpetuate the "I want, I want, I want" anymore.

Sorry if anyone is offended by what I've said but on the other hand maybe I'm right. Think about it.

[jxk254]

See, this is why other companies don't talk or give details to people. Notice we've had little updates since? Can you blame them? They try to be up front with us, share information and details, and they get nailed to the wall when they hit a bug. Just so we're clear, that means some important feature of the editor didn't work right. And needs to be fixed. There isn't a released editor out yet because they're STILL WORKING ON IT!!! Frankly, it would have been nice to continue getting updates to their progress, but frankly I wouldn't blame them at all to just deliver the editor and continue cutting off communications. Good job all. Now we have NO idea whats going.

*EDIT* my terrible spleling.

*EDIT again* wasn't fair to Blizzard, some of their devs are quite good in communicating w/ the fans as well. Thank you Ghostcrawler, you are missed.

[syltman]

No ones arguing that I or anyone who bought that game doesn't have the right!
What I and quite a few others are saying is that complaining every few seconds about what is obviously a problem isn't very constructive.
And hearing people rant on and on about the same thing is ridiculous. If they were to just post and say Im angry (for instance) and leave it at that then ok, but people just keep going and going like that freakin energizer bunny. It starts to sound like that brat from the new Willie Wanka movie, "Daddy I WANT IT NOW!"

It just gets old and the fact that Im responding probably is a waist of time because you guys cant let go and will have to post again just to point out that im wrong so Im not replying again and perpetuate the "I want, I want, I want" anymore.

Sorry if anyone is offended by what I've said but on the other hand maybe I'm right. Think about it.

I think this is the reason why big company's never respond to posts. Maybe Runic should do the same then?

[xdanx]

Yes, it would ship with an editor.
Yes, you paid for it.
Yes, you are right when it comes to the details.
Yes, you anticipated it very much, maybe even more than the game itself.
Yes, Runic made it look like Monday would be the big day.

No, you won't be any happier if you get a buggy editor.

You do know most of your "yes" are wrong, right?

[pampl]

See, this is why other companies don't talk or give details to people. Notice we've had little updates since? Can you blame them? They try to be up front with us, share information and details, and they get nailed to the wall when they hit a bug. Just so we're clear, that means some important feature of the editor didn't work right. And needs to be fixed. There isn't a released editor out yet because they're STILL WORKING ON IT!!! Frankly, it would have been nice to continue getting updates to their progress, but frankly I wouldn't blame them at all to just deliver the editor and continue cutting off communications (like blizzard?). Good job all. Now we have NO idea whats going.

*EDIT* my terrible spleling.

... we've had little update since because it was night time in PST. It just turned 9 AM and they've started posting again. These are grown adults, not fragile children that need to be sheltered- I think they can handle the almost entirely non-existent criticism in this thread.

[kisuke]

You people that say they should "take their time" and whatever, whatever... seem to forget that we all paid good money for the game as well as the editor AS PROMISED. It's now 2 weeks since release and still no editor. If this whole thing was free, then ya I'd agree with you that people shouldn't bitch and complain. But since everyone paid $20 for it, then they have every right to be upset.

To all who wrote the same kind of "payed $20", "all paid good money" etc syndromes (all childrens I'm sure)

Sorry to say but $20... your launch money, or a few cigarettes packs, or whatever you spent on in that rage? That it's a tragedy? Your life ruined after spending $20 on a great game? A lot of games cost double and are junk and the support for them the same.

Don't complain about spending $20 on a really great, fun game. It was your option to buy anyway. The editor will we out when it will be ready and that's it.
People who are complaining about the editor's delay it seems they don't have a clue about developing.

Let's be real... The delay hold's you from making mods? You have done all the assets needed for your future, great mod and the delay's hold's you. I don't think so.
After the editor will be released you all wining childrens will know what to do with it? NO... you'll need time to get use to it, learn, learn other stuff too... graphics, modeling, thinking (possibly) etc.

So, NO more complaining about spending $20 (the game only worth that money, maybe more) or put pressure on the developing team, it's pathetic and stupid.

PS: sorry for being rude(everyone decide that), but enough it's enough - the stupid wining, "it's somebody's fault for our unhappy life", human nature.

[Wintersong]

Since when did we pay for the editor? It was supposed to be free, only need to pay for the game.

And even if we payed (which as far as I know, we didn't), it's clear that you just like to complain and would love to complain about the editor being realed too soon, not tested... In fact, the chances of that still happening once it's released are quite high if it somehow is bugged or doesn't work properly in your machine.

[jxk254]

See, this is why other companies don't talk or give details to people. Notice we've had little updates since? Can you blame them? They try to be up front with us, share information and details, and they get nailed to the wall when they hit a bug. Just so we're clear, that means some important feature of the editor didn't work right. And needs to be fixed. There isn't a released editor out yet because they're STILL WORKING ON IT!!! Frankly, it would have been nice to continue getting updates to their progress, but frankly I wouldn't blame them at all to just deliver the editor and continue cutting off communications (like blizzard?). Good job all. Now we have NO idea whats going.

*EDIT* my terrible spleling.

... we've had little update since because it was night time in PST. It just turned 9 AM and they've started posting again. These are grown adults, not fragile children that need to be sheltered- I think they can handle the almost entirely non-existent criticism in this thread.

Fair enough. I'm getting annoyed with all these 'they promised me!!!' posts.

Let us not forget, Ghostcrawler promised me a pony.

[darkcoug]

The funny thing about this is that most of the whiny babies crying about the editor not coming out on Monday will probably give up after a day of trying to use it because it is too hard.

[ReinierK]

Yes, it would ship with an editor.
Yes, you paid for it.
Yes, you are right when it comes to the details.
Yes, you anticipated it very much, maybe even more than the game itself.
Yes, Runic made it look like Monday would be the big day.

No, you won't be any happier if you get a buggy editor.

You do know most of your "yes" are wrong, right?

As far as it wasn't clear: I was being sarcastic

[evilsnatcher]

Well, I can see the devs are online.. I hope for an update soon

[bulletbutter]

To all who wrote the same kind of "payed $20", "all paid good money" etc syndromes (all childrens I'm sure)

Sorry to say but $20... your launch money, or a few cigarettes packs, or whatever you spent on in that rage? That it's a tragedy? Your life ruined after spending $20 on a great game? A lot of games cost double and are junk and the support for them the same.

It doesn't matter the cost, its the principle. The editor was said that it would be released with the game. It doesn't matter if the game cost $5 or $50, a few people could have cared less about the game and simply purchased for the editor.

Don't complain about spending $20 on a really great, fun game. It was your option to buy anyway. The editor will we out when it will be ready and that's it.
People who are complaining about the editor's delay it seems they don't have a clue about developing.

I can't speak for everyone else but for me, the game was really fun for about 1-2hours. Now, it's just repetitive and boring. Also, as a customer, I could care less about development. It is the companies responsibility to ship a fully working title. It isn't my responsibility to research the development process.

So, NO more complaining about spending $20 (the game only worth that money, maybe more) or put pressure on the developing team, it's pathetic and stupid.

Again, I can't speak for everyone but the game (IMO) isn't worth $20....maybe the game + editor is worth it, but not the game alone.

PS: sorry for being rude(everyone decide that), but enough it's enough - the stupid wining, "it's somebody's fault for our unhappy life", human nature.

Defending a company that continues to let you down....I find that funny. Kiss a little more butt and I assure you that Runic Games will PM you the first copy of the editor. Seriously, the amount of replies that say,"give them a break" is staggering and (I think) more stupid and unjustified. There is more reason for people to be upset than there is reason for people to defend Runic games.....just look at their history with past products. For all I know Runic Games could go out of business before they release the editor.

[Sobersean]

See, this is why other companies don't talk or give details to people. Notice we've had little updates since? Can you blame them?

It was night time there for them. Like, the time when people sleep. It's now morning there once again. People didn't "scare them away" or make them stop posting. They went to bed. Now they're awake and you'll hear from them once again. They're not robots, and they need sleep daily, just like everyone else.

[Citizen86]

I can't speak for everyone else but for me, the game was really fun for about 1-2hours. Now, it's just repetitive and boring. Also, as a customer, I could care less about development. It is the companies responsibility to ship a fully working title. It isn't my responsibility to research the development process..

So why do you want to edit a game that you find boring and repetitive? You aren't going to be able to change the key aspects of what the game is... if you want a different game, you can always try the Unreal Development Kit that was just released. You might have more fun there.

[darkcoug]

@bulletbutter

The original intentions were to ship the Editor with the game, however, that was not promised or contracted. When the game came out, they did not claim the editor would be shipped with the game, only that it would be free.

Don't blame others for your lack of reading comprehension.

[bulletbutter]

So why do you want to edit a game that you find boring and repetitive? You aren't going to be able to change the key aspects of what the game is... if you want a different game, you can always try the Unreal Development Kit that was just released. You might have more fun there.

Well I have all sorts of ideas for mods, however, I doubt I will ever complete a single one. I am not really a modder.

But I have more faith in what other modders can do. That includes making a Torchlight mod that is better than what Runic Games came up with.