What spells do you like?

[Weston]

My pet gets Fireball (the best I can find) and Heal all. While it's just random timing that the pet shoots off heal all (maybe as soon as it cools down or every 30 seconds), I do find that it actually does coincide with when I need it on the rare occasion so better than not. As far as my little lady, well so far she only gets the town portal and identify spells so that I can free up 2 more slots in her inventory for loot carrying. If there are 2 other spells in her slots they are unintentional and not actually used as I've really not needed any thus far playing the Vanq or my Alchem.

[Eternall]

My pet gets Fireball (the best I can find) and Heal all. While it's just random timing that the pet shoots off heal all (maybe as soon as it cools down or every 30 seconds), I do find that it actually does coincide with when I need it on the rare occasion so better than not. As far as my little lady, well so far she only gets the town portal and identify spells so that I can free up 2 more slots in her inventory for loot carrying. If there are 2 other spells in her slots they are unintentional and not actually used as I've really not needed any thus far playing the Vanq or my Alchem.

I would suggest adding heal all and haste. Heal all will save you from having to carry potions, and haste is nice if you have to backtrack on a level, or for just tooling around town at mach 7.

[bug]

My pet gets Fireball (the best I can find) and Heal all. While it's just random timing that the pet shoots off heal all (maybe as soon as it cools down or every 30 seconds), I do find that it actually does coincide with when I need it on the rare occasion so better than not. As far as my little lady, well so far she only gets the town portal and identify spells so that I can free up 2 more slots in her inventory for loot carrying. If there are 2 other spells in her slots they are unintentional and not actually used as I've really not needed any thus far playing the Vanq or my Alchem.

I would suggest adding heal all and haste. Heal all will save you from having to carry potions, and haste is nice if you have to backtrack on a level, or for just tooling around town at mach 7.

Heal all has a 30 sec cooldown, iirc, so it doesn't quite replace potions.

[tobascodagama]

Putting Heal All on my pet doesn't seem as useful as a lot of people were saying, just because it burns the heals randomly, rather than saving it for when either it or me is taking damage. I think I'd rather give the pet two Summon spells and keep Heal All to myself, frankly.

[Eternall]

Heal all has a 30 sec cooldown, iirc, so it doesn't quite replace potions.

15 seconds for the player. A ranged vanq needs to potion more often than that? Not mine.

[PatrickC]

I love Draining Touch much more than any other spell, because I'm combine a set of sequence with Draining Touch----Dervish to be able to tank the boss and spank it. Once I had a good HP stolen weapon with Fastest speed, it's quite easy to survive in the Hard Mode, which my Rogue Vanquisher is in.
I had a Rare poleare with 61 HP stolen and 55 HPstolen in Draining Touch makes it sucks 100+ HP per hit.
I also use Idientify Item spell to save the money on scrolls.

[teg]

On my VERY HARD vanq, I'm using Haste, Identify, Elemental Protection and Heal (self). My pet gets Skeleton + Heal self. I dont like Heal all because of the cooldown. When I'm low on health I have to instantly use a potion or heal self, cannot rely on pets Heal All.

IMHO Haste is the one and only must have spell for any range vanq!

[ILackEmpathy]

i love haste, but its too short.. always have to recast it *probl cast that more than my main attack*

[Rhaps]

On my VH Heavy Rogue its max defensive spell mastery with Elemental Protection, Draining Touch, Heal Self and Identify. Heal all and Summon Zombies for the pet. Summon zombies seems pretty unpopular as a pet summon but I've found their extra hp and the fact that you get a few of them makes them more effective than the single skeleton or low hp archers for shadow vault.

[bug]

On my VH Heavy Rogue its max defensive spell mastery with Elemental Protection, Draining Touch, Heal Self and Identify. Heal all and Summon Zombies for the pet. Summon zombies seems pretty unpopular as a pet summon but I've found their extra hp and the fact that you get a few of them makes them more effective than the single skeleton or low hp archers for shadow vault.

You can only summon a skeleton at a tine, but you can easily spam ~10 of them. Zombies suck because they're slow and unless your pet decides to summon them in the middle of a fight, they never get to see any action. I for one would rather have the pet summon 1 useful skeleton than a bunch of useless zombies.

[Furbiscuit]

After playing around with spells for awhile, pet now permenately has retribution + draining touch, I use identify + town portal (to save inventory space, I don't sell green/blues and transmute them instead)+ heal all + web.

Loved dervish, wish I could have 1 more spell slot for pet, but I like him tanking, and when he's getting attacked by lotsa mobs retribution does more damage overall. I just sit back and pick off the stragglers with auto attack, lol.

[teg]

IMO town portal is useless as a spell because you rarely have to buy them (I find town portal scrolls more frequently then Im using them).

Dervish is also useless to me because I never shoot with normal attacks. Im using spells everytime so attack speed doesnt matter.

[Zanatar]

Why do some people bother wasting two spell slot's with Identify and Town Portal spells?

I don't get it. I mean both Town Portal and Identify scrolls are found SOO darn often. You never need to worry about having those scrolls. And even if I run out, both Town Portal scrolls and Identify scrolls are so darn cheap to buy that it's a non issue. I just don't get it.

I'm thinking in my head maybe it's to gain an additional inventory space, to be able to carry another magical item back? But I mean even then, you just portal back to town with a scroll you've found or kept, when your full. It' s no big deal.

So I just don't get why anyone would waste even 1 of the 4 spell slots, to use Identify or Town portal. And puzzles me even more when I see in this thread the number of people that waste half there spell slots, on both of them.

Thanks,
Zanatar.

[teg]

I find way more unidentified items than I find identify scrolls. So Im using the identify spell because Im sick of buying those scrolls over and over again. If there would be Identify All scrolls I would drop the spell for something better.

[bug]

Why do some people bother wasting two spell slot's with Identify and Town Portal spells?

I don't get it. I mean both Town Portal and Identify scrolls are found SOO darn often. You never need to worry about having those scrolls. And even if I run out, both Town Portal scrolls and Identify scrolls are so darn cheap to buy that it's a non issue. I just don't get it.

I'm thinking in my head maybe it's to gain an additional inventory space, to be able to carry another magical item back? But I mean even then, you just portal back to town with a scroll you've found or kept, when your full. It' s no big deal.

So I just don't get why anyone would waste even 1 of the 4 spell slots, to use Identify or Town portal. And puzzles me even more when I see in this thread the number of people that waste half there spell slots, on both of them.

Thanks,
Zanatar.

Convenience. Plus, there aren't many other good spells to fill those slots anyway. Summoning a lot of skeletons is mana intensive, thus not viable early on, buffs have too short a duration, fireball and freeze have to be targeted. It's a lot easier to find cons for each spell than it is to find pros.

[teg]

Disagree. Indeed not every spell is useful to every class. But on VC(HC) I dont wanna miss the benefits from supporting spells.

Elemental protection helps not to be oneshotted by certain mobs. Haste is awesome for kiting. Web also is useful for kiting. Heal Self saves health pots + it stacks with pots in critical situations. Skels is awesome for pet. And so on...

[Furbiscuit]

I use the spells identify and portal just because of places you can't just port back to town, map scrolls, and phase portals come to mind. Since I transmute my greens / blues I want as much inventory space as possible for those times.

With my playstyle I doubt I could keep 4 spells up constantly (or would even want to with this build), so I focused on the 2 that increased my survivability the most, heal all + web. Dervish and elemental overload would be the other 2 if I decided to drop port and ID.

[tenera]

I'm currently using:

Self: Heal All, Identify, Haste, Web
Pet: Retribution, Elemental Protection

I initially had my pet with a heal spell, but after reading this thread, and heard about frost/retribution, I decided to give one of those a try, and quite like retribution so far. I like identify, because it just plain makes things easier, but as I tend to be unable to NOT pick something up, it hasn't really saved me inventory space. I was picking them up with my pet, to sell, but I've started collecting them again, to give to other characters to use (before they get identify, or if I choose not to get it with them). Haste is very nice, as others have mentioned; my only gripe with it is, the casting animation (and it stopping you in your tracks) wastes some of the very short duration, as well as making it less effective as a "ohnoesrunawayyyyy" button. Web... I reallllly like this spell! It's also a very short duration (and not-improvable via +defensive magic skill), but the slow on it extremely potent. I'm finding it the most useful on things like trolls and melee named bosses, but it's also been pretty useful at chokepoints to force the waves of mobs to group up nicely for exploding shot. It's also really nice to drop in places where mobs will be spawning in a small-ish area (like huts, or trap doors).

I like elemental protection on my pet, because I've been using him as a tank. When I use some of the tanky fish food in conjunction with it, I don't even have to worry about him taking damage, really. Though, I imagine that will probably change on future playthroughs at higher difficulties.

I haven't even found a dervish spell yet (this is my first character... made it to the fortress so far ), but it sounds like it could be pretty nice for bosses and packed areas.

[Helliphino]

Identify in a spell slot for time and money. Mostly the time, since then I never have to visit the scroll vendor at all. Yeah I could use a 4th combat spell, and I totally understand somebody else deciding that's more important, but frankly the idea bores me a little considering the options available. Plus I don't have to reconfigure my controls to squeeze in another easy to reach combat hotkey.

TP as a spell I don't understand, since those drop far, far more than I use them.

[Grifthin]

Can you get townportal and identify spells to keep in your spell slots ? Where do you buy them ?